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Thread: UK ISP's Deep Packet Inspection controversy

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    Default UK ISP's Deep Packet Inspection controversy

    Here's an interesting piece of information, that imho could have very important consequences if allowed to pass unnoticed:

    On 16th July 2008 there will be a full day protest against the use of Deep
    Packet Inspection for the purpose of behavioural profiling. The event will
    focus on the plans by BT PLC, Virgin Media and Car Phone Warehouse to
    introduce deep packet inspection technologies through exclusive contracts
    with Phorm Inc.

    Since Phorm issued a press release on 14th February 2008 regarding these
    exclusive contracts there has been a storm of outrage amongst the public,
    leading academics, privacy advocates, Members of Parliament, Members of the
    European Parliament, Peers in the House of Lords and the industry as whole.
    The technology has been called illegal by Foundation for Information
    Policy Research, which was recently supported by a statement from the
    European Commission.

    As a result of the negative publicity generated over the past 3 months
    Phorm Inc.'s share price has plummeted by approx 70% and continues to
    struggle to develop confidence from investors.

    In 2006/2007 BT PLC have admitted to running covert trials of the
    technology without first obtaining the consent from customers required by
    EU and UK Data Protection and Communications regulations, directives and
    legislation. However, to date neither the Information Commissioner nor the
    Secretary of State have held BT PLC to account for these allegedly illegal

    Therefore, the growing public campaign to seek justice for the victims of
    these covert trials and the wider mission of stopping the technology from
    being deployed, has led to an organised one day protest in London, UK.
    There is expected to be a significant press and media presence at the event
    which will begin at the Barbican Centre, continue on to BT Centre (BT's
    corporate HQ) and finally end with a march on to Charing Cross Metropolitan
    Police Station in the early evening. On arrival at the Metropolitan Police
    station a full case file with witness testimonies and supporting evidence,
    along with a petition demanding a criminal investigation will be handed to
    the senior officer on duty.

    For more details about the event, please visit the following two web

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    That's pretty freakin scary, Re@lity!
    It wouldn't surprise me to find that the same thing is happening here in the U.S. as well. We all know how "user friendly" Comcast is.
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    Scary indeed.

    If there was a protest here in Belfast, I would go. London is a bit of a distance away. Its a complete disgrace, and guess what? I was signed up to a 'FTTC' Fibre-To-The-Cabinet trails that was given to me for FREE by BT. So I had free internet for nearly 3 years, I guess I am one of the unlucky ones who where getting spied upon. Over those years I did find strange results on 'netstat'...I have no evidence now though so its all a waste.

    This reminds me of the first episode of a TV program called 'The Lone Gunmen':

    Taken from
    A public relations woman begins to describe their "Octium" processor chip in glowing detail, but Langly, who is attending the reception, starts making cat calls. He accuses the company of embedding modem technology on the chip and invading the privacy of users.

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    As a Virgin media customer for a long time (it started a Yorkshire cable, then Telwest/Blueyonder and now its virgin) this does worry me as its a proper cable system, ie not adsl, it is on 24/7 in my house.

    I will look at my diary later, i may be making a trip to London in a couple of weeks so i might be able to make it to the protest
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    Thought these maybe of interest for those with bad isp's...

    lots of test linkage on this page, should help....

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    I will have to wait for the linux and mac versions, as they are the only o/s's i have
    If video games influenced behavior, we'd all be wandering round darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music...............

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    Get it while it;s hot {or before the Take-Down notice is served}.....

    British Telecom "Phorm" report: PageSense External Validation Report by BT Retail Technology, dated 15 Jan 2007. 52 scanned printed pages with occasional pen highlights, 17Mb.

    The internal British Telecom report shows that the carrier committed at least 18,875,324 allegedly illegal acts of interception and modification during its controversial covert "Phorm" trials.

    The report also indicates that personal identifying IP addresses were likely used, despite BT previously assuring the public and ICO that no personally identifiable data was used. IP addresses are recognised by the Data Protection Act.

    In addition to the 18 million regular advertising injections or hijackings, it appears charity advertisements were hijacked and replaced with Phorm advertisements.

    “The advertisements were used to replaced [sic] a ‘default’ charity advertisement (one of Oxfam, Make Trade Fair or SOS Children’s Villages) when a suitable contextual or behavioural match could be made by the PageSense system.”

    A "cookie" was covertly "dropped" onto 7,000 unsuspecting BT customers computers in collaboration with Phorm (Media121).

    "Estimations were that approximately 7,000 had received a cookie"

    The report concludes that the "opt-out" system would not work, since BT customers find themselves opted back in every time they changed computers or wiped their cookies:

    "The latter issue regarding opt-out could not be specifically trialled either since [BT] conducted this test as a stealth trial".

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    Looks like more and more people are getting access to your net/phone activies:

    The Daily Mail is reporting that local councils have been using the controversial Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) to spy on people's phone and email records. Reasons given for the surveillance include checking for evidence of people storing petrol without permission and investigating unburied animal carcasses. The surveillance was uncovered using the Freedom of Information Act. The scope of the RIPA act is staggering. It would be simpler to list who isn't allowed to access your phone and email records.

    Oh, here is a link to download a request to spy forum:


    Win Doc :
    RIPA Section 22 Notice to obtain communications data from Communications Service Providers (CSP)

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