After spending time on this all day I think i found a solution for the most part. If you have another solution please provide it as im still not sure why this happens.
found out what dmesg command is for : ) would have posted the out put but already looked further into the problem. I uninstalled Wicd and manually connected to the AP with WPA_supplicant.
I haven't tried reinstalling Wicd and don't think im going to.
WPA_passphrase "ssid" "password" > wpaconfig
sudo wpa_supplicant -i wlan1 -c wpaconfig