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    Quote Originally Posted by theprez98 View Post
    Yes, it truly is private property. It is also a public establishment (but not public property). Which means that the owner of the private property allows people to be on the property when they are a customer of the business.

    Being a customer allows you to be on the property for the express purpose of being a customer. It does not entitle you to solicit on their property.
    Well, there was no "No soliciting" signs anywhere".

    Thanks for the legal lesson guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=Xploitz=- View Post
    Well, there was no "No soliciting" signs anywhere".

    Thanks for the legal lesson guys.
    The owner asking you to stop soliciting is a big red "no soliciting" sign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Putting bread on your table, gives you no right to interfere with another's business.

    No, you're completely wrong about 'private property'. It is private property that the public is allowed to enter freely. At any point in time, the property owner can ban (sign a tresspass warrant) against anyone for any reason they see fit.

    Whatever guys. If you want to lable me a crook..go ahead. I really don't care.

    I'm not a crook and I'm not sorry for what I did. I did NOTHING ILLEGAL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theprez98 View Post
    The owner asking you to stop soliciting is a big red "no soliciting" sign.
    I know. I said I left when he asked me to leave. Therefore...I did nothing Illegal.

    You guys have just been waiting to jump on me haven't you? Don't you have better stuff to do than to try to publicly ridicule me and try to make me look like a common crook??

    Seriously guys. Grow up.
    If Best Buy is worried about a little competition from Xploitz little "Home based business".....thats sad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=Xploitz=- View Post
    Whatever guys. If you want to lable me a crook..go ahead. I really don't care.

    I'm not a crook and I'm not sorry for what I did. I did NOTHING ILLEGAL.
    I hope you are not taking our comments in the wrong way. We are not criticizing your business, we are simply pointing out that what you did was in fact illegal, whether or not you want to believe it or not. It might not get you cited, but it could if you keep it up.

    Look at it this way: would you continue going back to Best Buy's parking lot and soliticit customers even if the manager continues to ask you to leave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=Xploitz=- View Post
    Who said I refused? I left when he asked me to.




    Don't twist my words streaker.
    You were indeed breaking the law, at least at the point when he asked you to leave and had you refused to leave.
    How about you go back and re-read mine and comprehend.

    the operative word in my statement being 'had', as in had you not left, you would have been breaking the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=Xploitz=- View Post
    I know. I said I left when he asked me to leave. Therefore...I did nothing Illegal.

    You guys have just been waiting to jump on me haven't you? Don't you have better stuff to do than to try to publicly ridicule me and try to make me look like a common crook??

    Seriously guys. Grow up.
    If Best Buy is worried about a little competition from Xploitz little "Home based business".....thats sad!
    No, we're pointing out the errors of your ways and trying to guide you in proper business practices.

    And yes, they are concerned because you're basically violating their right to operate their business on their property.

    I think you're the one that needs to grow up, if you fail to see that.
    A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -=Xploitz=- View Post
    I know. I said I left when he asked me to leave. Therefore...I did nothing Illegal.

    You guys have just been waiting to jump on me haven't you? Don't you have better stuff to do than to try to publicly ridicule me and try to make me look like a common crook??

    Seriously guys. Grow up.
    If Best Buy is worried about a little competition from Xploitz little "Home based business".....thats sad!
    If you think we waited a week for you to return just so we could publicly ridicule you, you have an inflated picture of yourself.

    As I said in the previous post, you are taking our comments too personally. We aren't attacking you personally, we're suggesting your method of attracting customers is suspect.

    Step back and see what you would say to someone else on the forum who is doing the same thing as you.

    Take a deep breath and stop taking comments as if we are insulting you personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theprez98 View Post
    I hope you are not taking our comments in the wrong way. We are not criticizing your business, we are simply pointing out that what you did was in fact illegal, whether or not you want to believe it or not. It might not get you cited, but it could if you keep it up.

    Look at it this way: would you continue going back to Best Buy's parking lot and soliticit customers even if the manager continues to ask you to leave?
    Well of course not! Thats just asking for trouble.

    I really am failing to see how me putting up flyers is illegal. I mean, I see people all the time putting up flyers in front of Wal-Mart and other business...How is that any different? Where EXACTLY am I breaking the law?? Soliciting?? But theres no "No soliciting" signs anywhere around in the parking lot or on their stores windows. So how is what I'm doing considered illegal??

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    How about you go back and re-read mine and comprehend.

    the operative word in my statement being 'had', as in had you not left, you would have been breaking the law.
    Sorry streaker. I read your reply to hastily. I apologize.

    But as ShadowKill has mentioned.....Whats up with all the aggression towards me guys?? Geesh, I'm gone a month, and welcomed back with this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=Xploitz=- View Post
    Well of course not! Thats just asking for trouble.

    I really am failing to see how me putting up flyers is illegal. I mean, I see people all the time putting up flyers in front of Wal-Mart and other business...How is that any different? Where EXACTLY am I breaking the law?? Soliciting?? But theres no "No soliciting" signs anywhere around in the parking lot or on their stores windows. So how is what I'm doing considered illegal??
    C'mon, you know better than this. A law doesn't have to be posted everywhere for it to be a law. A store and its parking lot are private property, so they can control what happens on their property.

    Some businesses such as Wal-Mart allow people to solicit (Girl Scouts), but they do so with express permission, and often time restrictions (hours per day or days per week).

    Also, just because other people are doing it, does not make it legal.

    As I said, you're not likely to be arrested and cuffed for doing what you're doing, but you will probably get a bad reputation among retailers that will be hard to rid. And this reputation could adversely affect your business down the road.
    Quote Originally Posted by -=Xploitz=- View Post
    But as ShadowKill has mentioned.....Whats up with all the aggression towards me guys?? Geesh, I'm gone a month, and welcomed back with this??
    This is not aggression. What you're misreading as aggression is not a personal attack against you or your business, rather than a legitimate critique that your method of getting customers is not a good way of doing business.

    I am personally happy that you have so much business, and that your business is doing well. Hands on experience is some of the best training you can get. I want you to succeed and I want your business to succeed. But I want it to succeed in a good, positive way.
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