Hi to everybody. I'm new to all things Linux, all I have under my belt is a Ubuntu install in dual boot on a PowerPC four weeks back, and since I was starting to like it, I tried installing BT2 on an IntelMac. I have to say I visited/dowloaded almost all the tutorials on this forum, and understood maybe half of them. But I try, God knows I try. The little information I got on how to install BT on my Mac lead me straight into two complete HD wipeouts, and hours of crossreferencing this and that, in an attempt to make it work anyhow. In my case, something is always missing, little things, obvious to you, Balding_Parrot, and to all the big brothers in the forum, but unknown to the noobs like yours truly. In the three weeks I spent pouring over this immense new material which is dual boot installations on IntelMacs, I forgot to thank all of you, guys, for your efforts. So I'll do it now, even if I got a slap in my face after asking for more help (apparently I did not follow the forum netiquette, because instead of posting publicly, which I had done previously without getting any answer, I did in the form of a PM). The point I'm trying to make is this: maybe many of the people leeching out of the forum, not contributing, not even thanking you guys for the, again, wonderful work you are doing, are just like me, a total noobie who's just trying to make it work, who is not getting it because of the particular problem he's facing (in my case, GPT/MBR partition table, running Tiger without Bootcamp, now only available in Leopard, all tutorials recommending three partitions, not two, which is what I have left on my Mac, trying to sort out how to make them fit and run rEFIt + lilo properly, etc, etc) , still without a solution , and honestly, who's just too embarrassed to ask for more help, first because of all the posts saying stuff like:"If you don't know this, you'd better not even try that", secondly, because one slap in the face is enough for me. So what do you expect? I would kindly thank anybody who is willing to help me, but the message I got loud and clear in many places on this forum is: these are the instructions, if they work for you, fine, if they don't, you are just like the rest of us way back when we started, i.e. you'll have to make do and manage, and learn the hard way. Different hardware, different distros, different people require different solutions. Sometimes these solutions work perfectly for somebody, and then I agree with you at least a "thank you" is in order. But most of the times, I think, they just don't work, are incomplete, or they assume a certain knowledge which is not everybody's, and then you have poor me, downloading all the contents of the forum, trying to make sense out of some of it, then bumping in a post like yours, feeling like a totally ungrateful shit, and hurryingly typing a pathetic apology from a different computer because mine is useless for the moment, due to a wrong set of instructions in a dual boot setup posted in your very forum. Sorry for the rent, I really appreciate what you guys do, almost everything I know about Linux I learned it here, and if I offended you, believe me, it wasn't my intention. I just wanted to speak on behalf of the Linux Little People, the mass of ignorant loafs to whom I clearly belong, and offer a justification, however lame, and an apology.