The "Which card shall I buy" million dollar question....

[DerGolo]

Hi folks!

I am planning to purchase a new card and can't decide which one.
(I am located in Europe and do not need the "a" frequencies, just "b" and "g".)

Either Proxim 8470-WD
or Cisco AIR- CB21AG-E-K9.

I expect no problems with BT and any of this cards. Does any one has experiences about the features using Windows XP? I have seen the Cisco Software-Tools some time ago - they are great! Does the Orinoco card provide similar great tools?

Thanks for your help,
Golo

[DerGolo]

Hello,

I am new to WLAN and wondering what “a”, “b” & “g” does mean..

John

Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11

Golo

[john99]

Thank you very much for the help!
-> Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11


When I am googeling "Atheros Proxim 8470-WD", Google often returns
hints like Proxim Orinoco 8470WD.

Questions:
Isn't Orinoco Lucents WLAN chipset? I would like to get the Atheros
based Proxim 8470-WD (the one Re@lity did recommend).


Any feedback is appreciated very much. Thank's

John

[Re@lity]

Hi folks!

I am planning to purchase a new card and can't decide which one.
(I am located in Europe and do not need the "a" frequencies, just "b" and "g".)

Either Proxim 8470-WD
or Cisco AIR- CB21AG-E-K9.

I expect no problems with BT and any of this cards. Does any one has experiences about the features using Windows XP? I have seen the Cisco Software-Tools some time ago - they are great! Does the Orinoco card provide similar great tools?

Thanks for your help,
Golo

The Proxim 8470WD is a great card, though there are no tools like the Cisco tools you mentioned, provided for Winblows use.

The Cisco CB21AG has a better receive sensitivity and a higher output, iirc?

Probably your main consideration for comparison here (other than the sensitivity issue) is the transmit power available. The Proxim card has an MC type external antenna connector, whereas the Cisco card has no external option. So, as stand-alone cards, the Cisco has a more powerful output, but the Proxim would become the more powerful with a suitable antenna
It's down to what you want to do with the card.

Thank you very much for the help!
-> Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11


When I am googeling "Atheros Proxim 8470-WD", Google often returns
hints like Proxim Orinoco 8470WD.

Questions:
Isn't Orinoco Lucents WLAN chipset? I would like to get the Atheros
based Proxim 8470-WD (the one Re@lity did recommend).


Any feedback is appreciated very much. Thank's

John

The 8470WD is a "Proxim Orinoco" card, however it doesn't use the old Orinoco Hermes chipset - it uses the Atheros chipset.
So, don't worry about it having "Orinoco" in its name

[john99]

Thanks a lot Re@lity for the helpful information! Hopefully I will find such a card before Christmas :-)

[marcogt]

what about this card?http://cgi.ebay.it/Super-Long-Range-...QQcmdZViewItem
it's a senao emp-8602 atheros chipset with 400mw power?
is that ok?

[Brown]

Been reading all the post on what will work and will not work. I have a dell laptop with a Senao 2511CD Plus Ext2, Prism2 chipset. Could not get anything to work with BackTrack2. I removed BT2 and installed BT v1 on the hard drive. Now ever thing works. To get on the Internet I just type in wlassistant at the command prompt and then click connect and it hooks up. To get the rest to work just click switch to hostap in BT v1 or type switch-to-hostap at the command prompt and it will work or at least it works for me. There are so many cards and drivers no wonder there is a lot of hair pulling going on.
The BT2 almost ran me crazy. Hope this helps.

[Brown]

Thank you very much for the help!
-> Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11


When I am googeling "Atheros Proxim 8470-WD", Google often returns
hints like Proxim Orinoco 8470WD.

Questions:
Isn't Orinoco Lucents WLAN chipset? I would like to get the Atheros
based Proxim 8470-WD (the one Re@lity did recommend).


Any feedback is appreciated very much. Thank's

John

I did a post on here about the Senao 2511CD Plus Ext2. I use this with Backtrack v1 on the hard drive and ever thing works. Don't even get into Backtrack2 because it will not work with this card. I have an external antenna on this card. I was running Kismet and I noticed that it was picking up a wireless access point that I knew about. That access point was four miles off. If you use this card with Backtrack v1 be sure to go into wireless and click on switch to hostap. To get on the internet just type wlassistant at the command prompt and then highlight the access point and click connect. That is all I did and the thing hooked right up.

[john99]

Hello,

I intend do buy a "Proxim 8470-WD" card. On the website of proxim.com there is only a type called "ORiNOCO® 11b/g PC Card".

How can I recognize in the shop a real Proxim 8470-WD card?
(package? special serial-numbers?)


I found the following on Proxim.com KB:
-> Proxim KB Incident: 070118-000073:
->There really isn't physically that will show the PROXIM 8470-WD card.


Very strange this answer of Proxim ..

Your feedback is appreciated very much. Thank you! John

[damocles]

I'm thinking about buying the Senao sub362ext.



Only problem is that it is USB connected. Any people got this card working with Backtrack and also able to put it in monitor mode? Please let me know. I have a working D link DWL G-650 but without external antenna option. And this is able to connect 2 external antenna's.

The website with product details

100 mW/ 20 dBm
Super G 108 Mbps
WPA (AES/ TKIP)
QoS support (802.11e)
eXtended Range technology
Externe antenne aansluiting (RP-SMA)
802.11b/g
USB 2.0 en 1.1
802.11x support