Note to the N00b from a N00b

[Joe Mama]

While the wonderful world of security is fun to experiment and play with - be wise of where you are doing it, and have a half a clue as to what you are doing. (LEARN about the technology and exploit you are using BEFORE you start tinkering)

Lesson learned, I was playing with Ettercap here on my work network and damn near crashed EVERYTHING when I poisoned the ARP cache. The positive to come of this was it was learned that we had some IP address conflicts with machines that 'werent there' and they could have posed a problem later on down the road.
*PHEW!* That was a close one! Looks like my 'learn time' will either be in a segmented VLAN or when I get off of work and can play with it on my OWN network
-Me

[imported_pingu]

Yep, practising in virtual machines saves a lot of headaches

[Eatme]

This is something I read during a chatroom convo, and I LOL'd throughout the convo. What are you guys thoughts on this. Is it really noobish ?

He: you do realize backtrack is the 2nd biggest script kiddie tool
He: metasploit being the biggest
Him: it doesn't matter alot of advanced users uses it even the fbi
Him: o.o
Him: keep'em coming
Him: ;]
Him: if the developers He: ard u say that, the y would eat u alive
He: more likely the y would agree that the main users of backtrack wouldnt have a clue how to do anything the programs inside it do on the ir own
Him: so ur saying people who uses backtrack are noobs or doesn't know anything ?
He: most of the m are
Him: lmao
Him: fbi noobs ?
Him: the devolpers are noobs ?
Him: ur insane
He: it doesnt take much to take a linux distro and add progams to it
Him: thats tru
Him: but
Him: so tell me a prgram that isnt noob
Him: the n
He: anything that is "point, click, exploit done" is % gonna be used by skids who don't even understand the basics of what the program the y just ran did
Him: but thats the thing how do u know what people know and dont know
Him: u cant go off just by sayin "o He: 's a noob He: doesn't know what just happen cu zHe: using bt"
Him: step out that little box of urs..
Him: and u still haven't told me a program that isn't noob
Him: this is funny
He: something that actually takes some knowledge to use
Him: and what is that =
Him: can u even show me a documentation ?
He: anything that requires you to do something more than just enter an ip in a field and hit go
Him: hhaha bt does more the n that
Him: and u dont enter just an ip
Him: bt doesnt even have a gui installer
He: um...it doesnt need an installer
Him: and still the FBI uses it and ur calin the m noobs ur crazy
He: you burn it to a disc...der hur
He: the fbi really are totally clueless about computers...you do know that
He: the re is a reason the outsource the ir forensics stuff
Him: u gotta know basic linux to run backtrack
He: no you dont
He: you enter a single command line wHe: n it boots
Him: nooooooo
Him: not to boot bt
He: it even tells you different ways to boot it
Him: to run it like us eit
Him: smfh
Him: lol@u
He: you point to the "start menu" select a folder, select a program
Him: rofl
He: the n hit go on the program
Him: its more the n that
Him: sorry
He: not really...
Him: its easy to run bt, but i dont get how ur saying its noobish, go tell an chatroom aimer to install bt i bet He wont know what to start
Him: and even if he manages to install it
He: you dont have to install anything..
Him: he wont understand anything how it works
He: you stick in a disc and boot
Him: if ur usig just the cd to use bt u wont be able to save changes...like i said get ur He: ad out ur ass lol
Him: liveCD doesn't even have presisntacne changes
Him: so why yes the cd
Him: o.o
Him: its pointless
Him: imo
He: all you have to do is copy the files from the ISO to a usb drive
He: and edit one file
Him: but look at what u said b that
He: ?
Him: what are u trying to prove ? im confused
He: that the re is nothing complicated about BT, and that nothing on it requires more than basic middle school computer literacy
Him: yea, tell the makers that..i bet that the y will have a field day with u
Him: and i never said it was complicated, im just saying people who uses it are not noobish..
He: anyone who is really trying to exploit a system isn't going to be using publicly available tools
Him: yea and i bet that ur that person
Him: since u know better huh
Him: can u make a better software like BT ?
Him: i dont think so
He: backtrack isnt even software
He: its a modified linux distro
Him: u know what i mean
He: with pre-installed programs
Him: can u ?
He: just take a bunch of apt-get's
Him: answer the question
He: just take a bunch of apt-get's
Him: yea, i dont think u can
He: i just told you twice all it takes
He: is a bunch of apt-get
Him: lol the makers of bt will shit on u, thats all i gotta say
He: why? all backtrack is is a linux distro with pre-installed programs
He: isn't hard to install the m on your own
He: just take a bunch of apt-get's
He: well, whatever the SLAX equivalent is if I directly wanted to copy it

[zWiReDz]

Got halfway through and said f*** it lmao... My eyes freaking hurt from learning coding all day bleh...

EDIT: I lol'd through alot of it, but I don't think it's true at all to be honest..

[imported_pingu]

Backtrack's powerfull collection of tools that would be usefull to script kiddies but they would have to learn quite a bit to use it to its potential. Funny tho, that guy chattin thinks he's so leet dissin my favorite distro