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    Hello all,
    well after years of hearing my friends say I should check out linux, I looked into and found something that interested me, which was the backtrack OS. I have never used linux, and I have downloaded the backtrack 4 beta version. I have a laptop that I'm sure meets the minimum requirements, it's a Acer Aspire One. I got windows xp on this, but from what I have read, I should be able to make a bootable usb device to run the linux OS on.

    Wel to my frist question, where do I start reading to learn how to install onto a usb device, and configue it to work with my wireless card/wired connection for this laptop
    second question:with the display on the Aspire One, will it work correctly with back track 4 beta, or do I need to find another laptop for use?
    And the last question, where do I look for learning on how to use linux, from what I've seen, it reminds me of dos commands... and I know you can customize the hell out of it.


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    you can use unetbootin creates a bootable usb disk for u to find it just search it on google and itll be the first one

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    Quote Originally Posted by sed8ted28 View Post
    Hello all,
    well after years of hearing my friends say I should check out linux, I looked into and found something that interested me, which was the backtrack OS. I have never used linux, and I have downloaded the backtrack 4 beta version. I have a laptop that I'm sure meets the minimum requirements, it's a Acer Aspire One. I got windows xp on this, but from what I have read, I should be able to make a bootable usb device to run the linux OS on.

    Wel to my frist question, where do I start reading to learn how to install onto a usb device, and configue it to work with my wireless card/wired connection for this laptop
    second question:with the display on the Aspire One, will it work correctly with back track 4 beta, or do I need to find another laptop for use?
    And the last question, where do I look for learning on how to use linux, from what I've seen, it reminds me of dos commands... and I know you can customize the hell out of it.


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    There's about a half dozen how-to's on this site on creating a bootable usb drive. Though honestly, BackTrack isn't really made for beginners to linux.
    Of course, if you really wanted to have some fun, go to Wal-Mart late at night and ask the greeter if they could help you find trashbags, roll of carpet, rope, quicklime, clorox and a shovel. See if they give you any strange looks. --Streaker69

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    There's about a half dozen how-to's on this site on creating a bootable usb drive. Though honestly, BackTrack isn't really made for beginners to linux.
    i would have to agree backtrack is not for noobs and yet theres still people asking how to do things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by war10ck216 View Post
    i would have to agree backtrack is not for noobs and yet theres still people asking how to do things...
    And the point of the above is ? Sorry apparently I got lost.
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    Just thought I’d add in my 2 pence....

    Personally the first ever Linux distribution I came across and used was Backtrack2 and I’ve not looked back since! I think it depends on what you’re initially trying to achieve and your reasons for learning Linux in the first place. For me it was specifically for security analysis and as Backtrack is so highly focused on penetration testing I can’t think of a better Linux distribution to start with. If you have the dedication, commitment and passion to learn and get stuck in at the deep end then you will find that you will pick up all of the basics along the way!

    I don’t disagree that people completely new to Linux perhaps should experiment with easier distributions first before moving onto backtrack, but just because someone is new to Linux and put into the ‘Noob’ bracket, doesn’t mean that they are not a highly intelligent human being that would take to backtrack like a duck to water!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sed8ted28 View Post
    Hello all,
    well after years of hearing my friends say I should check out linux, I looked into and found something that interested me, which was the backtrack OS. I have never used linux, and I have downloaded the backtrack 4 beta version. I have a laptop that I'm sure meets the minimum requirements, it's a Acer Aspire One. I got windows xp on this, but from what I have read, I should be able to make a bootable usb device to run the linux OS on.

    Wel to my frist question, where do I start reading to learn how to install onto a usb device, and configue it to work with my wireless card/wired connection for this laptop
    second question:with the display on the Aspire One, will it work correctly with back track 4 beta, or do I need to find another laptop for use?
    And the last question, where do I look for learning on how to use linux, from what I've seen, it reminds me of dos commands... and I know you can customize the hell out of it.


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    Not trying to be a jerk, but you should probably start out with something else.

    I have always thought RedHat/Fedora to be fairly easy to use and get use to for new-to-linux users.

    BackTrack is meant for mainly for IT security personnel to use in pentests, Security Audits, etcs. And being that you are trying the beta you are destined to run into many issues.

    Since you are 100% new the first thing we should point out to you is that linux comes in many flavors (distros). Knoppix, Fedora/RedHat, Ubuntu, Slax, SUSE, Mandrake, etc. I would do some research on some of them, and stay away from asking which one you should use because you will get mixed and bias answers no matter what forum you ask on.

    Most all these distros have what is called a LiveCD version, which is a bootable CD (you can make it a bootable USB by using the tool mentioned by skitt). This liveCD will allow you to boot to the OS without a HDD install. Few things to note about this....1.) You can't retain changes most of the time without some tweaks (use google to find out what needs done for whatever flavor you pick) 2.) Be careful to not destroy your Windows install, as being new to 'nix and playing around that is a possibility.

    Sorry if I broke that down too much but you said you were new

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    Quote Originally Posted by sed8ted28 View Post
    Hello all,
    well after years of hearing my friends say I should check out linux, I looked into and found something that interested me, which was the backtrack OS. I have never used linux, and I have downloaded the backtrack 4 beta version. I have a laptop that I'm sure meets the minimum requirements, it's a Acer Aspire One. I got windows xp on this, but from what I have read, I should be able to make a bootable usb device to run the linux OS on.

    Wel to my frist question, where do I start reading to learn how to install onto a usb device, and configue it to work with my wireless card/wired connection for this laptop
    second question:with the display on the Aspire One, will it work correctly with back track 4 beta, or do I need to find another laptop for use?
    And the last question, where do I look for learning on how to use linux, from what I've seen, it reminds me of dos commands... and I know you can customize the hell out of it.


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    Andy
    Your honesty at being a newbie up front is refreshing (unlike many other first time posters here). A willingness to admit you don't know something is the first step to learning it.

    I don't want to discourage you from learning Linux, but like the other posters here have mentioned, Backtrack might not be for you yet. If you are really new (and you are) you will probably have a much better time with Ubuntu, or if you plan on working in the IT industry, Red Hat.

    Backtrack is great - if you use it for what it was designed for. I use it for pentesting my customers networks, I don't use it as a regular OS otherwise. I have a MythBuntu server (a TV recording specialized version of Linux) that handles all my TV watching needs. I use Red Hat Enterprise at work... I use a customized version of Linux for managing phone calls as well. See, each version of Linux I use for a different task. There is no "right" answer for the type of Linux you use.

    However, as you have mentioned, you are brand new. Thus, I would recommend Ubuntu with the hardware you have.

    Why?

    Because you are new. You have lots to learn, and many of the things you probably want to try out you can do with Ubuntu. Plus, it is much easier to use for a beginner, and there is more support. I am not telling you straight out to give up on Backtrack, rather I am saying you might want to learn Ubuntu first, and then take a look at Backtrack after you are more experienced. You will get more out of it, and be far less frustrated.

    BTW, welcome to Linux, and I hope you like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Flibble View Post
    Your honesty at being a newbie up front is refreshing (unlike many other first time posters here). A willingness to admit you don't know something is the first step to learning it.
    There are two of such type posts today. It is really refreshing as you stated Mr. Flibble.

    @ OP good luck with your learning.
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    Mr. Flibble thanks for being the voice of reason!
    I'm a compulsive post editor, you might wanna wait until my post has been online for 5-10 mins before quoting it as it will likely change.

    I know I seem harsh in some of my replies. SORRY! But if you're doing something illegal or posting something that seems to be obvious BS I'm going to call you on it.

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