Cant connect to wireless network without using dhcp client?

[RageLtMan]

NetworkManage and wlassistant both refuse to connect to a wireless network if i've manually defined IP settings. wlassistant gives me a "connection failed" right off the bat without even trying to associate, and Networkmanager doesnt even try to connect... am i doing something wrong here? Thanks

[xorred]

/etc/init.d/networking start
this has been covered gazillion times here

[RageLtMan]

sorry for not mentioning, i did that prior . I may be a dunce, but i am not a complete dunce. could someone point me to a good read on how all this works, maybe something i added to BT (hell the HD install itself) did this thank you.