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    Default BT3-USB on HDD (as live-System)

    Hello,

    i want install the BT3-USB Version on an HDD with Windows by using the NT-Bootloader of Windows XP. (but no real-BT3 installation, only the small live-install)

    BT3 is running fine on an SD or USB-Stick installation with "changes"

    But I donīt want everytime use the Stick or SD-Card(plug in plug out ). I want integratet the System in the HDD.

    now:
    c: win 98 (FAT32)
    d: win XP (FAT32)
    e: BT3-usb folders (FAT32)
    f: data-Files(share-folder for all Systems)
    g: ext2 (for changes Folder, then BT3 ist running on HDD

    I want the live install on HDD, not the real install with 4,2GB!!!

    I have copied the Folderīs from the USB Stick on e: (BT3 an boot)

    And now i want configure the NT-Bootloader from Win XP, so that i can boot the BT3.

    dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/tmp/bootsek.lin bs=512 count=1 and integration in the boot.ini doesnīt run. (i think this is only usefull for an real install)

    Have anybody an Idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    i want install the BT3-USB Version on an HDD with Windows by using the NT-Bootloader of Windows XP. (but no real-BT3 installation, only the small live-install)

    I don't even think that's possible. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjarobot View Post
    I don't even think that's possible. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
    Yea, I don't think the nt bootloader can boot linux. You can, however, boot windows with grub or lilo.
    Of course, if you really wanted to have some fun, go to Wal-Mart late at night and ask the greeter if they could help you find trashbags, roll of carpet, rope, quicklime, clorox and a shovel. See if they give you any strange looks. --Streaker69

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjarobot View Post
    I don't even think that's possible. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.

    the NT-loader can boot Linux, but only "real- installed" Linux on an ext2 partition.

    you must create an Bootsector and copy him in the c: ,(there is the boot.ini)

    dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/tmp/bootsek.lin bs=512 count=1

    and write in the boot.ini

    c:\bootsek.lin ="Linux"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    the NT-loader can boot Linux, but only "real- installed" Linux on an ext2 partition.

    you must create an Bootsector and copy him in the c: ,(there is the boot.ini)

    dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/tmp/bootsek.lin bs=512 count=1

    and write in the boot.ini

    c:\bootsek.lin ="Linux"
    See, I did not know that.
    Of course, if you really wanted to have some fun, go to Wal-Mart late at night and ask the greeter if they could help you find trashbags, roll of carpet, rope, quicklime, clorox and a shovel. See if they give you any strange looks. --Streaker69

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    ... i have now solved the problem.

    it was an long way to rome.. (searching searching...)

    i use now the GRUB-Boot Loader, exactly the GERUB4Dos, which i can install from the Windows surface and boot over the NT-Bootloader.

    and i can him very easy modify... that is great now, i use an small live system and i didnīt require burn and boot a CD

    and the changes will also be saved
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    Default more explaination required

    what settings did you use for your live install?
    i'm attempting to do the same thing in grub but keep getting init errors during boot and i would like to see your grub boot options to make sure the problem isn't there.
    i've try many times copying the files across using multiple methods (copy+paste,dd,etc) so i'm sure that's not causing probs and the live cd i'm booting from is 100% good
    if a solution to a problem is stupid and works, it is not stupid.

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    c: win 98 (FAT32)
    How did you get fat32 with win 98?

    I do not think it is possible either (booting live usb on hdd)

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    Quote Originally Posted by calnorak View Post
    c: win 98 (FAT32)
    How did you get fat32 with win 98?

    I do not think it is possible either (booting live usb on hdd)
    Why not? Win 98 can to fat32, just not ntfs(I think).
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    Yes Windows 98 doesnīt support NTFS, but an install on an Fat32 is possible.
    Before you install Win 98, you have create Partitions with QParted.
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