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    I would say ....

    A: Stop admitting to illegal stuff or I will ban your a**

    B: I find the first lesson of not using pirated software of much more value than dont use Windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaYoS View Post
    Doesn't have to be open source, Ive been using Macs for many years now.

    I know theres a lot of proprietary stuff in industry, but in my day job there is a shift towards oss as it can be faster and cheaper to implement.
    Ok, Again, there's a lot of things that Mac's cannot do in an industrial environment. Windows isn't going away anytime soon.
    A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Ok, Again, there's a lot of things that Mac's cannot do in an industrial environment. Windows isn't going away anytime soon.
    Is it really that Mac's cannot do it or just that Mac's don't have the programming support for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhmatt81 View Post
    Is it really that Mac's cannot do it or just that Mac's don't have the programming support for it?
    They can't do it, as there are special cards that only work in PC's. I have a machine in our lab that runs a spectral analyzer that a Mac could not interface into as it takes a full length, full height PCI card.
    A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    They can't do it, as there are special cards that only work in PC's. I have a machine in our lab that runs a spectral analyzer that a Mac could not interface into as it takes a full length, full height PCI card.
    Ahh, good point. I wasn't thinking of hardware devices that aren't available for the Mac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhmatt81 View Post
    Ahh, good point. I wasn't thinking of hardware devices that aren't available for the Mac.
    Yeah, there's alot of proprietary hardware out there that's PC only, not to mention software with no Mac or OSS alternative. I don't know of any SCADA/HMI software that runs on Mac. There's I think 1 or 2 in the OSS world, but neither of them are powerful enough to run anything more than a couple of lightbulbs.

    Plus you have to look at other aspects, customer billing, general ledger, inventory control, maintenance management. I'm sure there are some of these things available in the OSS world, but I bet selections are limited as are features.
    A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Yeah, there's alot of proprietary hardware out there that's PC only, not to mention software with no Mac or OSS alternative. I don't know of any SCADA/HMI software that runs on Mac. There's I think 1 or 2 in the OSS world, but neither of them are powerful enough to run anything more than a couple of lightbulbs.

    Plus you have to look at other aspects, customer billing, general ledger, inventory control, maintenance management. I'm sure there are some of these things available in the OSS world, but I bet selections are limited as are features.
    On the office side of things, the mac version of Quickbooks doesn't even do payroll! What the hell is that about? If it wasn't for that, my wife's business would be all macs. You can put full length pci cards in mac pros. It probably wouldn't work as there's no drivers, but macs support them.
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    I believe that macs are best known for their graphics abilities. I know a few CG/game developers and macs are what they primarily use.

    Other than for this, I have not seen them widely used for any other purpose.
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    that was true when macs were still macs, now they are only pcs in mac boxes ...........

    the only difference is that macs are much more expensive
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    Heh, Not one comment on what I even posted.

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