I give UP !!!!

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Originally Posted by raven4d

thank you for reply ,, wireshark will still be able to sniff and detect the IPs that has a packets transmits even if another netmask is used ;)

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Let me get this straight. Your telling me that if you have the wrong netmask you are still going to be able to get the other IP's being used that are also on a different subnet?

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Originally Posted by raven4d

;)
never mind

now back to my problem ..what do u think about it ?

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I think you should read up on ARP.

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Originally Posted by hhmatt81

Let me get this straight. Your telling me that if you have the wrong netmask you are still going to be able to get the other IP's being used that are also on a different subnet?

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Verging on spoon feeding :eek: :D

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Originally Posted by raven4d

i've cracked the same router many times before with variety security options, but the worst thing is when u donut know "who is your enemy" coz i really donut know what the heck is going on now ,,sure thing will try the configurations he sat one by one ,,but for now i donut wanna ruin his conf . :cool:

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If you dont know who owns the AP you are attacking then you obviously do not have permission to do so. Whats going on is, you are breaking the law! You should spend some time to google why people use backtrack and its programs before you ask how.

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Originally Posted by thorin

Verging on spoon feeding :eek: :D

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I'm not wrong am I? Last I checked broadcasts don't traverse over other subnets.

hhmatt81, no you're not wrong.

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Originally Posted by thorin

You're right I shouldn't have assumed it was a switched network. If you were all behind a hub you'd see everyone's traffic.

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Are there wireless access points that act like a hub?

I thought that in theory all WAP's were hubs as anyone can listen to anything

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Originally Posted by Andy90

I thought that in theory all WAP's were hubs as anyone can listen to anything

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No. An AP functions as a bridge between the Wireless side and the Wired side.

The open air is a hub, meaning the transmission passing through the open space allowed you to listen to it if you have the correct card. You don't need an AP to monitor wireless traffic.

I'm not sure if I wrote it wrong or I read your post wrong.

I meant that (ignoring security, mac filtering, passphrases etc) that if all computers are connected ok then a WAP is like a hub, in that any connected device can hear any traffic relating to that WAP, in the same way any device connected to a hub can hear all traffic to all machines?

thank you all for your precious thoughts ,, am reconsidering some points :)

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Originally Posted by 0tt0v0nc4t

If you dont know who owns the AP you are attacking then you obviously do not have permission to do so. Whats going on is, you are breaking the law! You should spend some time to google why people use backtrack and its programs before you ask how.

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having a LIMITED information about some problem being discussed in some topic doesn't require u to post anything silly to prove "hey folks am still active in the forums yepe !"

if u've read carefully my thread u've noticed that i explained what i am doing !
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